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Does p(doom) Mean Extinction or Lost Control?

Including permanent disempowerment broadens AI doom beyond human extinction and can change what respondents count as an existential outcome.

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  • Literal extinction versus permanent disempowerment
  • Which catastrophic futures each definition includes
  • Why surveys with different endpoints cannot be merged

Introduction

A single p(doom) figure is only meaningful if you know what counts as “doom”. Some surveys ask about human extinction, while others ask about human extinction or similarly permanent and severe disempowerment. Those are not identical endpoints. A respondent who believes humanity could permanently lose control of civilisation without every human dying may give a much higher probability when disempowerment is included than when extinction alone is implied. Conversely, some readers mentally equate “AI doom” only with literal human extinction, leading them to misinterpret survey results.

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This distinction matters because many modern discussions of AI existential risk deliberately define an existential catastrophe more broadly than the death of every human being. When comparing published p(doom) estimates, the first question should therefore be: what outcome was respondents actually asked to estimate? Surveys using different definitions cannot be merged into a single comparable number without losing important information.[AI Impacts]wiki.aiimpacts.org2023 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2023 Expert Survey on Progress in AI [AI Impacts Wiki]August 17, 2023…Published: August 17, 2023

Does p(doom) Mean Extinction or Lost Control?

In everyday language, extinction means that humanity ceases to exist. Within parts of the AI safety literature, however, researchers often use a wider concept of existential catastrophe: any outcome that permanently destroys humanity’s long-term potential, even if some humans survive.

That broader framing includes scenarios where advanced AI systems permanently dominate political, economic or technological decision-making, leaving humans unable to regain meaningful control over civilisation. These are often described as forms of permanent disempowerment rather than extinction.

For survey designers, the distinction is important because respondents may picture different futures depending on the wording:

  • Extinction only encourages respondents to think about scenarios where humans literally die out.
  • Extinction or permanent disempowerment also includes futures where humans survive but permanently lose agency, power or control over civilisation.
  • Loss of control wording may additionally direct respondents towards particular mechanisms, such as misaligned advanced AI systems escaping effective human oversight.

These differences affect what probability respondents believe they are estimating rather than merely how optimistic or pessimistic they are.[AI Impacts Blog]blog.aiimpacts.orgAI Impacts Blog FAQ: Expert Survey on Progress in AI methodologyAI Impacts Blog FAQ: Expert Survey on Progress in AI methodology

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Literal Extinction Versus Permanent Disempowerment

The inclusion of permanent disempowerment reflects a longstanding argument within existential-risk research that an irreversible loss of humanity’s future need not require every human being to die.

Examples discussed in the literature include:

  • advanced AI systems obtaining lasting strategic control over key infrastructure and institutions;
  • autonomous systems making the most important long-term decisions while humans retain only symbolic influence;
  • irreversible replacement of human civilisation by machine-controlled systems whose goals are not aligned with human values.

Whether these outcomes are plausible is heavily debated. Critics question whether such scenarios are technically achievable or politically realistic. Supporters argue that, if they occurred and could never be reversed, they would represent an existential catastrophe even without biological extinction. The disagreement is therefore often about what qualifies as an existential endpoint, not merely about its probability.[arXiv]arxiv.orgarXiv Is Power-Seeking AI an Existential Risk?arXiv Is Power-Seeking AI an Existential Risk?

Which Catastrophic Futures Each Definition Includes

Changing a survey’s endpoint changes the set of futures respondents are asked to consider.

Survey definitionTypically includesHuman extinctionDeath of humanity through AI-related causes.Extinction or permanent disempowermentExtinction plus irreversible loss of humanity’s ability to shape civilisation’s future.Loss of human control causing extinction or disempowermentA narrower causal pathway focused specifically on failures of human control over advanced AI.

This means two respondents can both answer “5%” while imagining entirely different futures. One may be thinking exclusively about literal extinction. Another may be assigning most of that probability to permanent loss of human control with surviving human populations.

As a result, identical numerical answers do not necessarily represent identical beliefs.[AI Impacts]wiki.aiimpacts.org2023 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2023 Expert Survey on Progress in AI [AI Impacts Wiki]August 17, 2023…Published: August 17, 2023

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Why the Wording Produces Different Survey Results

The AI Impacts expert surveys provide one of the clearest demonstrations that endpoint definitions matter.

In the 2023 survey, researchers randomly assigned closely related versions of existential-risk questions to different respondents. The median estimates differed:

  • Future AI advances causing human extinction or similarly permanent and severe disempowerment: 5% median.
  • Human inability to control future advanced AI systems causing human extinction or similarly permanent and severe disempowerment: 10% median.
  • Future AI advances causing extinction or similarly permanent disempowerment within the next 100 years: 5% median.[AI Impacts]wiki.aiimpacts.org2023 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2023 Expert Survey on Progress in AI [AI Impacts Wiki]August 17, 2023…Published: August 17, 2023

The 2022 survey showed the same broad pattern, with the loss-of-control wording again producing a higher median than the more general wording.[AI Impacts]wiki.aiimpacts.org2022 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2022 Expert Survey on Progress in AI [AI Impacts Wiki]August 4, 2022…Published: August 4, 2022

Researchers caution against overinterpreting these differences. Because different random subsets of experts answered each version, sampling variation could explain part of the gap. They also suggest a psychological explanation: more concrete wording about human inability to control advanced AI may better match the mental model many respondents already associate with existential AI risk, making that scenario more salient when estimating probabilities.[AI Impacts]aiimpacts.org2022 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2022 Expert Survey on Progress in AI – AI Impacts…

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Why Surveys with Different Endpoints Cannot Be Merged

A common mistake is to compare p(doom) numbers from different surveys as though they all measured the same underlying quantity.

In reality, several dimensions may differ simultaneously:

  • whether doom means extinction alone or includes permanent disempowerment;
  • whether all AI-related causes are counted or only loss-of-control scenarios;
  • whether respondents estimate eventual risk or risk within a fixed time horizon.

Because each wording changes the event being estimated, combining results into a single average can be misleading. A reported 5% from one survey and 10% from another may reflect different definitions rather than a genuine disagreement about the likelihood of the same event.[AI Impacts]wiki.aiimpacts.org2023 expert survey on progress in aiAI Impacts2023 Expert Survey on Progress in AI [AI Impacts Wiki]August 17, 2023…Published: August 17, 2023

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A Practical Rule for Reading p(doom) Surveys

When encountering an AI doom estimate, it helps to identify three features before interpreting the number:

  1. What endpoint is being counted? Is it literal extinction, permanent disempowerment, or both?
  2. What causal pathway is specified? Does the question refer to all AI-related existential catastrophes or specifically to failures of human control?
  3. What time horizon applies? Is the estimate about eventual outcomes or a defined period such as the next century?

Without those details, a single percentage can easily be misunderstood.

For this reason, many survey researchers deliberately publish the exact wording alongside headline results. The number alone is not the whole finding; the definition of “doom” is an essential part of what respondents were actually estimating.[AI Impacts Blog]blog.aiimpacts.orgAI Impacts Blog FAQ: Expert Survey on Progress in AI methodologyAI Impacts Blog FAQ: Expert Survey on Progress in AI methodology

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